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Principals of Fit Final design by Marcusstratus Principals of Fit Final design by Marcusstratus
Here's a quickly done sketch of my final project in my Principals of Fit class. I did it on tracing paper with light pencil... so don't mind it if you can't see too clearly.

Anyway, it's a hybrid between a trench coat and a cape. The cape has been attached to the neckline and shoulder seam and then to the top of the armhole. After that it goes down the back and drops vertically when it hits the waist. The coat will be double breasted with buttons running most of the length of the front. I put the chains on the cape just as an idea for keeping it closed, but I don't what I'll actually put there...

I got the idea to make this out of a book "Period costume for stage and screen" by Jean Hunnisett. The garment was a caped coat from around 1888.
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Hellmouth Featured By Owner Dec 3, 2009
I would really like to see this design in reality [in a photo of course]! It's very innovative and I've never quite seen anything like it. It does bring the Inverness Coat to mind.
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Marcusstratus Featured By Owner Dec 6, 2009  Professional Artisan Crafter
Hey yeah! This is stellar :D I didn't know there was a more common name for my style of design, which is exactly like the inverness but of a full length (and a few minor adjustments). Regretably though, I cut up my test fit coat for making something else... so if I am to ever take pictures of this I'm going to have to make it again..
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Hellmouth Featured By Owner Dec 6, 2009
Oh. I was starting to think it turned out so awesome that you turned into Gollum over it. :P
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Marcusstratus Featured By Owner Dec 7, 2009  Professional Artisan Crafter
lol aww yeah... well... :/ I don't recommend trying a full length coat. Very difficult to develop the pattern and it doesn't wear very well. meh, it's a nice concept and all... I'd like to see someone else to do it because they may succeed where I went wrong.
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MapleBunnie Featured By Owner Aug 24, 2009  Professional Artisan Crafter
I've been working on some cape and cloak designs as well :) love it great combination of some older styles
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Marcusstratus Featured By Owner Aug 24, 2009  Professional Artisan Crafter
Oh yeah, definitely... now it's a matter of actually getting the thing to work
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MapleBunnie Featured By Owner Aug 25, 2009  Professional Artisan Crafter
oh the fun part :) good luck
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Marcusstratus Featured By Owner Aug 25, 2009  Professional Artisan Crafter
indeed. And so far it's working quite delightfully. At first I was really dissapointed by how the cape was acting on my shoulders, too tight, but once I added more width to it it's now become alot more comfortable and drapes alot better.
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MapleBunnie Featured By Owner Aug 26, 2009  Professional Artisan Crafter
I'm working on a cape for a competition at school, and i flat drafted the pattern I wish I had draped it :( but I think it will work out. I Really want to get my hands a on a draping manaquine ^_^
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Marcusstratus Featured By Owner Aug 26, 2009  Professional Artisan Crafter
yeah, to get the best results easily it's good to drape things, especially capes and skirts. But that's what test fits are for and that lot
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fortysecondarcha Featured By Owner Aug 24, 2009
The back view reminds me of old scholars' robes, while the front is very industrial/steampunkish. It's a cool and unusual mix of styles, and I look forward to seeing it all made up!
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Marcusstratus Featured By Owner Aug 24, 2009  Professional Artisan Crafter
Yeah :D that's one of the reasons I'm interested in this design... unusual is a good word.
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PJvG Featured By Owner Aug 23, 2009  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
That looks odd :P
but I like it :)
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Marcusstratus Featured By Owner Aug 24, 2009  Professional Artisan Crafter
hehe Good!
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fading-hologram Featured By Owner Aug 23, 2009
This will look amazing when finished! Going to have to take a look at that book at some point :P What type of fabric do you plan on using?

For a closure, just an idea, would a lengthened frog-like closure work?
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Marcusstratus Featured By Owner Aug 24, 2009  Professional Artisan Crafter
yeah! I expect that would work pretty well, or an average short one for a smaller gap.

I plan on using Wool for this, some brown/green colour
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fading-hologram Featured By Owner Aug 24, 2009
ooh! wool will look great! :D
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Marcusstratus Featured By Owner Aug 24, 2009  Professional Artisan Crafter
Aye :D
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Cornu-aspersum Featured By Owner Aug 22, 2009
it reminds me a bit of Vash the Stampede's coat.
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Marcusstratus Featured By Owner Aug 22, 2009  Professional Artisan Crafter
Yeah, with those 2 rows of buttons running the length :D
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Artoveli Featured By Owner Aug 22, 2009  Hobbyist General Artist
Wow, this is going to be absolutely stunning when it's finished! I can see why you're excited to start it.
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Marcusstratus Featured By Owner Aug 22, 2009  Professional Artisan Crafter
Aye :D I've got most of the pattern and now to just get it cut out and assembled, for the first time.
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VioletRosePetals Featured By Owner Aug 22, 2009  Hobbyist General Artist
Wow, that's an interesting idea. I like lot :D. So, you're making this right? Because I can't wait to see pictures!
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Marcusstratus Featured By Owner Aug 22, 2009  Professional Artisan Crafter
Yes! I am making it :D I made the pattern today and I'll prolly cut it out tonight to sew up.
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VioletRosePetals Featured By Owner Sep 17, 2009  Hobbyist General Artist
Oooh yay!
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Marcusstratus Featured By Owner Sep 20, 2009  Professional Artisan Crafter
now it's just a matter of getting it photographed and posted.
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dubdotherdain Featured By Owner Aug 22, 2009  Hobbyist General Artist
you could probably work it so the chains do double duty, and can be clipped to the shoulders to draw open the cape
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Marcusstratus Featured By Owner Aug 22, 2009  Professional Artisan Crafter
hey yeah! That's a good idea :D
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Hexonal Featured By Owner Aug 22, 2009  Professional General Artist
Man, I want one too. although with my current haircut...lol.
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Marcusstratus Featured By Owner Aug 22, 2009  Professional Artisan Crafter
hah hey, it would look like sketch I made... leaving out the hair and all.
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Izz-noxfox Featured By Owner Aug 22, 2009  Professional General Artist
that's a very cool project, I love hybridation and this one looks particuliarly interesting :)
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Marcusstratus Featured By Owner Aug 22, 2009  Professional Artisan Crafter
Aye, that's what I'm all about... fusing ideas
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subvirus Featured By Owner Aug 22, 2009
i love the ideas your designs give me when i look at them. my first thought was that this would be black and white with silver accents, to be worn by a rpg-type priesty sort, but when you say you plan it to be in olive green and brown and such, i can easily see it going in a steampunkish direction too. either way, i see it being worn by a dignified yet edgy type of character.
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Marcusstratus Featured By Owner Aug 22, 2009  Professional Artisan Crafter
Yeah, I can see the whole black and white look too. you know, if it's double breasted it looks military, if there's only one row of buttons it looks like a religious or business garment.
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Novalyyn Featured By Owner Aug 22, 2009  Student General Artist
Make sure you hang on to that design. I showed it to Tedd, and he wants one (seriously, he just looked at it a moment and said, "I want it," which isn't common for him). We couldn't afford it right now, though.
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Marcusstratus Featured By Owner Aug 22, 2009  Professional Artisan Crafter
lol wow, yeah I definitely shall :D
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CageyJay Featured By Owner Aug 22, 2009  Hobbyist General Artist
Gorgeous design, here. The pattern seems like it might be a bit of a bear to create and make up, but it looks like it would be well worth it.

Brief question: have you designed it to have hidden anchor points in the back for openwear/flipping? In my experience (I wear a lot of cloaks and capes in daily life), it is very difficult to get even a shoulder-fitted cloak to stay like you have it drawn on the left side without an anchor hook/frog/button. Though duration that it will stay like that often depends on lined/unlined and the nature of the overfabric, the tendency is always to fall forward and closed, or fall back and yank at the neck. Since this design doesn't appear to have a joining panel across the back, I'd imagine the problem to be emphasized.

...not that I mean to lecture you when you have so much more clothing and textile experience than I... :blushes:
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Marcusstratus Featured By Owner Aug 22, 2009  Professional Artisan Crafter
ummm I expect to solve that with the whole sewing it to the coat bit. But yeah, I'll also solve that in class. first I'll make a mock of it and make sure everything hangs correctly and fits perfect before I make the final pattern and garment.
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CageyJay Featured By Owner Aug 22, 2009  Hobbyist General Artist
Respectfully, I don't mean making it stay as you have it drawn in the design, hanging over the arms like that. You did state that it was sewn to the base coat, so of course it would stay like that-- you're an excellent designer, so it would do no less. I mean when you go to flip it back like on the right arm of the left-most drawing-- no cloak I've ever known stays flipped like that when the wearer even walks unless the forward edge gets anchored behind the shoulder or the wearer holds his/her elbow bent at a funny angle to keep the drape from swinging against the flip. I didn't see any anchors drawn in your design, so I was asking, since the intent seems to be with the ability to wear it flipped back.
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Marcusstratus Featured By Owner Aug 22, 2009  Professional Artisan Crafter
oh yes, I see what you mean. I thought you were wondering how it would stay in place when it's just hanging down. I wasn't really intending it to stay back like that though. In the drawing it's just to show what's under the cape. But it's a good idea, what sort of anchors are you familiar with? buttons or something else?
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CageyJay Featured By Owner Aug 22, 2009  Hobbyist General Artist
Ah. My mistake, and I am sorry if my question came across as nit-picking in that case. That goes to show me that I really shouldn't comment on technical drawings without having experience in the field.

I've seen all different types of anchors, and the only ones I've known not to work are snaps. In cloaks where the anchors are meant to be hidden, I've seen simple hooks and eyes almost submerged in seams. I've also seen decorated buttons and plain buttons, though with the plain buttons they usually pair with a strap inside the cloak that is reminiscent of those straps on epaulets under which military folks tuck their hats. In cloaks that are designed to close tightly in the front, I've seen anchor points that match the lowermost closure frogs. And by far the simplest (for a short, summer cape, explaining the lack of water-tightness) I've seen a hole with a ring-rivet through which the wearer can tie one of the lower closure laces. I've never seen anything complicated like buckles or zippers, though.

Please forgive that long list-- people have gotten rather creative, given that these are generally post-creation additions prompted by season changes or falling flips causing problems.
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Marcusstratus Featured By Owner Aug 22, 2009  Professional Artisan Crafter
ah yeah yeah, don't worry about it. It all good, and I don't mind long lists either :) Some guy who commented on the deviation mentioned that it would work well to have the fastener to keep them closed work doubly by having it fasten to the back as well.
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CageyJay Featured By Owner Aug 22, 2009  Hobbyist General Artist
*Nods.* I've seen that done, and it generally works pretty well. That guy's smart.

Good luck with cutting out the pattern and piecing it all together! :)
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Marcusstratus Featured By Owner Aug 22, 2009  Professional Artisan Crafter
Aye :ahoy:
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tazzasister Featured By Owner Aug 22, 2009
Cheers to Hunniset!
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Marcusstratus Featured By Owner Aug 22, 2009  Professional Artisan Crafter
Aye! :D :ahoy:
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Aeternus-Spero Featured By Owner Aug 22, 2009
Impressive! What colors/textures were you thinking of going for? My husband has an oilcloth duster that reminds me a little of this; it has a shoulder cape that is attached by curious means.
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Marcusstratus Featured By Owner Aug 22, 2009  Professional Artisan Crafter
I want to make it out of wool and line it with.... something nice... hehe
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Aeternus-Spero Featured By Owner Aug 22, 2009
Like...organic silk, perhaps?? :D
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Marcusstratus Featured By Owner Aug 22, 2009  Professional Artisan Crafter
yeah, you're thinking along the right lines :D
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